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⚡ a 31-minute video, readable in 60 secondsDavid Pierce hosts this episode of The Vergecast, with producer Travis Larchuk framing listener questions submitted through the VergeCast hotline and email. The session takes three listener submissions: a voicemail from Wiley on what would let minimalist phones succeed, a call from Eddie on how designers choose between e-ink, LCD, and OLED screens, and an email from a viewer named David comparing a device to Theodore Twombly's phone from the movie Her. The questions cluster around minimalist phone design choices, including who should approve apps and which display technology to use, following a short news rundown on Disney Plus, SpaceX, and Google Assistant.
Segment (~00:00:02): David Pierce hosts The Vergecast with producer Travis Larchuk, who takes listener questions from the VergeCast hotline for this episode.
Key takeaways
- News (~00:00:34): Disney CEO Josh D'Amaro said on an earnings call that the Disney Plus app will soon add games, merchandise, and other experiences.
- News (~00:00:47): Disney is partnering with TikTok to create a vertical video feed called Verts.
- News (~00:00:53): D'Amaro indicated Disney is looking into adding a free ad-supported tier to Disney+.
- News (~00:01:11): SpaceX reported earnings for the first time ever.
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- News (~00:01:23): SpaceX president Gwynne Shotwell said the company plans to build a terrestrial mobile network in addition to its satellite systems, aiming to take customers from T-Mobile, AT&T, and Verizon.
- News (~00:01:44): Google Assistant will be officially removed from Android devices starting September 4th.
- Segment (~00:02:19): the hosts give the hotline contact info, marking the transition from the news rundown into listener questions.
- Q (~00:02:55): a listener named Wiley left a voicemail arguing that open development and community-driven app approval is what would let minimalist phones succeed.
- A (~00:03:47): David Pierce says the core tension is 'who decides' what apps belong on a minimalist phone.
- A (~00:04:37): Pierce notes people hacked the Light Phone 3, which runs on Android, to install full Android on it, sparking backlash from purists.
- A (~00:05:14): Pierce describes Commodore reviving its brand for a flip phone concept where anyone can build apps but they must be approved by Commodore to be listed on its app store.
- A (~00:05:41): Pierce says Commodore's CEO Christian is the arbiter of what apps get approved on the Commodore flip phone.
- A (~00:06:03): Pierce says Light Phone has opened up its development kit, letting users build and run apps like Facebook or Instagram on the Light Flip, though Light won't promote or endorse them.
- A (~00:07:07): Pierce says he personally leans toward users having the right to do whatever they want with a phone they paid for, including using Claude to build apps that violate the device's minimalist premise.
- Q (~00:08:04): a caller named Eddie asks how minimalist phone designers decide between e-ink, LCD, and OLED screens, citing an earlier Light Phone episode with Kai.
- A (~00:09:02): David says the e-ink trade-off is that it lasts a lot longer and is easier on the eyes, but is intentionally unpleasant to use, calling this quality a compliment.
- A (~00:09:51): David says e-ink screens are essentially run by a single company, making the E-Ink ecosystem harder to source than LCD or OLED.
- A (~00:10:19): David says the main con of e-ink is the camera, since it doesn't refresh fast enough, lacks fidelity, and can't show focus properly, framing even the Boox camera as just a document scanner.
- A (~00:10:45): David says Light moved away from e-ink because the camera is the top feature people require on a primary device, even ahead of phone calling.
- A (~00:11:29): David cites TCL as doing interesting work making OLED screens look more e-ink-like via its Nextpaper technology.
- A (~00:11:39): David cites a company called Daylight, which removes blue from an LCD and changes its reflectivity to make it feel warmer and more e-ink-like.
- A (~00:11:55): David notes the Light Phone is a black-and-white experience until the camera is opened, at which point it switches to full color.
- Q (~00:28:16): a viewer named David emailed the show to note that a device being made now resembles Theodore Twombly's phone from the movie Her, a small makeup-case-like device that opens up.
- A (~00:28:38): the host (David Pierce) says Her is currently the most interesting movie in tech because everyone in tech watched it and started trying to build Samantha without registering the film was dystopian.
- A (~00:29:00): the host says the movie has many interesting ideas about devices, including how hardware and software interact.
- A (~00:29:16): the host says the movie contains many good interaction and hardware ideas, including foldable phones.
- A (~00:29:24): the host argues tech should stop trying to make people fall in love with AI assistants and instead steal other ideas from the film, including the pants Joaquin Phoenix wears.
- Unresolved (~00:27:33): David is curious whether Apple has solved the crease problem and found new software ideas for its rumored foldable iPhone, a question he leaves open.
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